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 » Yahoo Search Marketing™ Bidding FAQ's


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» Yahoo Search Marketing™ Bidding (as quoted from Overture™)

» Dynamic Bid Maximizer™ is running AutoBid every hour, but all the bids that are colored in blue are not being updated, why?


(For example, my targeted position is set to #1, but when I check my position on Overture, it is still showing we are in the #2 position, why?)


This is the most confusing part, because a user expects their keywords to be shown in the targeted position all the time in every moment, however, this is not always possible. Because after you changed your bids, your competitors may also change their bids as well, so that your position will be changed dynamically and it depends how often your competitors change their bids.

Since Overture has a frequency update rate limitation, you can only update bids 24 times per day and once per 30 minutes. That means that the program does not update your bids every second, it can only update your bids at least once per 30 minute update cycle. This is between your last update and next update process. You have to wait at least 30 minutes before you can update your bids again. During these 30 minutes, you competitors may change their bids, so that your position will be changed as well. This is the reason why when you check your position on Overture, your keyword may not be in the position you are bidding to. This however, it does not mean the BidMaximizer does not work, it is just because your position has been changed because your competitors changed their bids after your update was completed.

For example, you set your targeted position to #1. At 8:00AM, the BidMaximizer updates your position to #1 position for $1.16. 10 minutes later at 8:10AM, your competitor change his bid to $1.17, now he is at #1 position and your position move to #2. When you check your position at 8:15AM, you will find that your position is at #2. But it does not mean the BidMaximizer does not work. Because you can not update your bids until 8:30AM, so that you will stay at position #2 or lower if there is another competitor that changes his bids during this time. Then at 8:30AM, BidMaximizer update your bids again and set your position to #1for $1.18, the same process repeat again.

If you want to prove if BidMaximizer is working or not, please do NOT check the position, please check on the Bid Amount (Or MaxBid on Overture). Because your position can be changed from time to time, but the Bid Amount will not be changed until you update the bids during next cycle.

For example, at 7:50AM, your bid amount is $1.13. At 8:00AM, BidMaximizer updates your bid to $1.16. This bid amount should not change until you update your bid next time. Please login to your Overture DTC web interface, if your MaxBid amount on Overture has been changed to $1.16, then this proves that BidMaximizer is working because your bid amount on Overture has been updated correctly.


» Why is the position on Dynamic Bid Maximizer™ is different to Overture web site?


(For example, Dynamic Bid Maximizer™ shows us at position 6. However, overture.com places us at position 4, why?)

Before answer this question, you need to understand how Dynamic Bid Maximizer™ works. To process a full update bids routine, the program will take following steps:

1. GetListings: this process will download your keyword listings from your account.
2. Keyword Look Up: this is an important process to get your current position and your competitor's position details.
3. Update Bids: After Keyword Look Up, the program will calculate the new price base on your target position setting, then update the new bid price to the server.
4. Keyword Look Up Again: after sending the new bid amount to the server and update your bids, the program need to run the Keyword Look Up function again to update the screen for your new position.

Because the Dynamic Bid Maximizer™ has two modes: Scheduler mode and Manual Mode. During the Scheduler mode, in order to improve the speed issue, the program will NOT update the screen after it updated the bids at the back ground (Because when you run the program at night or in scheduler mode, you don't need to watch the screen every second), for this reason, the program does not perform Keyword Look Up(step #4) function after update bids. So that when you look at the screen, the data on the Dynamic Bid Maximizer™ screen was out date. This is the reason why when you look at the Dynamic Bid Maximizer™, the position on Dynamic Bid Maximizer™ is different to overture.com.

If you want to see the fresh current position data at that moment , all you need to do is to run the "Keyword Look Up" function manually by clicking the "Manual Bid/Keyword Look Up" button to refresh the current data and display on the screen.

If you want to see the current position data on the screen every time during the Scheduler mode , please go to "Account" profile window and choose "Advanced" tab, then check the "Always perform keyword look up after update bids" option , then you will get the fresh current position data every time. But it will slow down the update bids process.


» What is Overture Auto Bidding?

Auto Bidding is a powerful new way for Overture™ advertisers to manage their bids in the DirecTraffic Center®.

The Auto Bidding system allows advertisers to optimize their budgets by allowing them to set the maximum they are willing to pay for a click, and then adjusting their cost per click to give them the best price available. Advertisers pay only $0.01 more than the Max Bid of the next highest competitor without exceeding their Max Bids. For example, if an advertiser sets their Max Bid to $0.50 and the next highest listing has a Max Bid of $0.45, they only pay $0.46 per click -- saving $0.04 for every click


» What is the difference between the Overture Bid Types: Auto Bid and Fixed Bid?

An Auto Bid allows an advertiser to set the maximum amount (Max Bid) they're willing to pay for each click. Our systems will then look at the Max Bids of all the other advertisers in that search term marketplace and give them the best position available. The advertiser only pays $0.01 more than the Max Bid of the next highest competitor. As other advertisers change their Max Bids, our system will adjust their cost automatically so they maintain the best position at the best price available, without exceeding their Max Bid.
A Fixed Bid is what Overture has traditionally offered. It allows an advertiser to set the exact amount they're willing to pay for each click. Unlike Auto Bidding, with Fixed Bidding they pay the exact amount they input, there is no elimination of bid gaps.
For example if an advertiser sets their Max Bid to $0.50, they will pay $0.50 for each click, regardless of what the other advertisers in that marketplace bid.


» What is Overture "Max Bid"?

A Max Bid is the highest amount an advertiser is willing to pay each time the listing receives a click.


» Can Advertisers see their competitor's Overture Max Bid?

Yes, advertisers will be able to see the top five bids from the "Manage Bids" page. In addition, "More Bids" in this column will show the Max Bids for all other positions.


» What happens if several advertisers in the marketplace submit the same bid amounts for the same search terms?

When two or more advertisers bid the same amount, seniority is given to the first advertiser who bids that amount. Therefore, if Advertiser A submits a $.50 Max Bid and another $.50 Max Bid already exists from Advertiser B, Advertiser A will appear after Advertiser B.


» Can advertisers bid by position?

Yes, there are several ways advertisers can bid by position.
The easiest way is to use the "Top 5 Max Bids" information, found on the Manage Bids page. This will show the Max Bid an advertiser needs to exceed in order to move into one of the top 5 positions. For position 1, the advertiser needs to bid at least one cent higher than the current Max Bid at position 1. To retain this position longer, we recommend that the advertiser set their Max Bid more than one cent higher than the current Max Bid for position 1. Remember, if the advertiser chooses Auto bidding their cost will only be $0.01 higher than the Max Bid of the advertiser at position 2, regardless of how high they set their Max Bid.

For advertisers who would always like to get the best possible position for their bid, we recommend that they set their Max Bid to what they're willing to pay on the Manage Bids page and our systems will make sure the advertiser gets the best possible position for the best cost without exceeding their Max Bid.

It's important to remember that using this option does not automatically maintain an advertiser's position when other competitors adjust their bids. Because of the dynamic nature of our marketplace, we recommend that the advertiser frequently check their listing(s) and adjust their Max Bid to ensure they maintain their desired position within the search results.

You can always see which position your listing has achieved on the Manage Bids page in the "Position" column.


» What role does Overture™ Bid Management Licensees playing under Auto Bidding?


Overture sees an ongoing valuable role for third parties in working with Overture. For companies that wish to maintain a guaranteed position on an ongoing basis, additional bid-management services may be just as useful as they were prior to Auto Bidding. In addition, bid management services may also be helpful for companies that wish to utilize complex bidding rules.

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